There is no IGLU Cabal. Shlomi Fish has obtained a patent on certain key
technologies essential for the existence of IGLU Cabals. He is available for
license negotiations only on February 29th of odd-numbered years, between the
hours 14:15:09-18:28:18.

People, who practice IGLU Cabalism without the appropriate patent licenses,
risk teleportation into the interior of exploding supernovae.

Omer Zak in Hackers-IL message No. 1968
(Re: A TINIC Sequel)

    -- Omer Zak
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1968 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1968 )
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There is no IGLU Cabal!

Writing this sentence followed by an explanation has been patented by Omer Zak
in US patent No. 10943307*2^66452-1. Commenting on Omer's comment has been
patented by Shlomi Fish in US patent No. e^(i*pi). The sentence itself is a
trademark of Moshe Zadka.

The existence of these patents is the only explanation one needs for this
sentence.

Shlomi Fish in Hackers-IL message No. 1515

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1515 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1515 )
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There is no IGLU Cabal. Some Politically-Correct ISPs block E-mail which comes
from Hell. Unfortunately, some of the brightest minds needed for the IGLU
Cabal languish in Hell.

Omer Zak in Hackers-IL message No. 2203
("Do you want to send E-mail from hell?")

    -- Omer Zak
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 2203 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/2203 )
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There is no IGLU Cabal! Its members spent a better time of their lives writing
an RDBM server in a purely functional programming language. After having to
deal with designing many FP-friendly algorithms, and dealing with ugly code
that was made uglier due to FP, they found the task of maintaining the IGLU
site too mundane and unchallenging.

Shlomi Fish in Hackers-IL message No. 1964

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1964 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1964 )
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There is no IGLU Cabal. The former Cabalists have been swallowed by the black
hole of MPPL (Most Powerful Programming Language) and find the mundane
programming problems posed by Linux kernel and applications to be incredibly
elementary, trivial and boring.

Omer Zak in Hackers-IL message No. 1302
("Most mind-expanding computer language?")

    -- Omer Zak
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1302 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1302 )
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There is no IGLU Cabal! Its members can be arranged in N! orders to form N!
different Cabals. The algorithm to find which order formulates the correct
IGLU Cabal is NP-Complete.

Shlomi Fish in Hackers-IL message No. 2071

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 2701 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/2701 )
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There is no IGLU Cabal. The problem of founding an IGLU Cabal has been proven,
in a surprise move, to be equivalent to the question of existence of God,
fully-tolerant religions and NP-complete oracles.

Omer Zak in Hackers-IL message No. 2060

    -- Omer Zak
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 2060 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/2060 )
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There is no IGLU Cabal! Home-made Cabals eventually superseded the power and
influence of the original IGLU Cabal, which was considered a cutting edge
development at its time.

Shlomi Fish in Hackers-IL message No. 2001
("Pentium 100 == Cray 1 (?)")

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 2001 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/2001 )
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There is an IGLU Cabal, but its only purpose is to deny the existence of an
IGLU Cabal

Martha Greenberg in Hackers-IL message No. 2057

    -- Martha Greenberg
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 2057 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/2057 )
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There is no IGLU cabal! The former cabalists are trying to prove the
correctness of a program that proves the correctness of proofs of other
programs.

Shlomi Fish in Hackers-IL message No. 2607
("Proving the Correctness of a Proof")

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 2607 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/2607 )
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There is no IGLU Cabal! They had to write a web application in an API (which
chose to remain nameless) in which one has to call CreateFile with 6 or 7
arguments just to open a file. By the time they were done, someone wrote a
30-line perl script that did exactly the same thing.

Shlomi Fish in Hackers-IL message No. 1871
("Perl vs. JavaScript ASP with IIS")

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1871 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1871 )
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The information transmitted is intended to be ignored by the person or entity
in front of whom it appeared and may contain useless and/or misleading
material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other abuse of, or
taking of any action of any kind because of this misinformation by persons,
animals, aliens, or cosmic entities other than the unintended recipient is bad
karma. If you received this error, please send your paycheck to the sender and
delete everything on the hard drive of your computer.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson in Linux-IL message /02/09/msg00066.html

    -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson
    -- Post to Linux-IL ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il%40cs.huji.ac.il/msg21541.html )
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This sender of this e-mail is privileged and has protexia with people in high
places. Don't ask, they are in high places. You could not have received it in
error, we know what we are doing. If it has any scandal or gossip value please
notify the newspapers, television and radio by e-mail and then delete
everything from your system. Please copy it and use it for any purposes, and
especially disclose its contents to the press: to do so would be exactly what
we really wanted. This disclaimer is to cover our you-know-what if it ever got
out that we sent it to you. Thank you for your co-operation. Please dial 911
if you need assistance.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson in Linux-IL message 02/09/msg00090.html

    -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson
    -- Message to Linux-IL ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il%40cs.huji.ac.il/msg21564.html )
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Ally McBeal as a Software House:

Richard Fish - the methodology guru, usually does not actually write code. But
he does stress doing things the right way (not in the PHB sense, but in the
hacker sense).

Ally McBeal - the brilliant female hacker. Her code is mixture of brilliancy -
both in getting the job done, and in the quality of bugs which go into it.

"Biscuit" - would be the type who does not think twice of embedding a string
representing a Scheme script into an assembly language device driver, and
invoking Guile from it.

Other participants - left as homework.

    -- Omer Zak
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 2819 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/2819 )
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2003, Shaul Karl wrote about "Re: Various performance
problems":
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:42:49AM +0200, Nadav Har’El wrote:
> >
> >       I'm guessing that TLS (thread local storage, NOT transport layer
> > security)
>
>
>   Is there any work to remove this name clash?

Yes, the Thread-Local-Storage people were annoyed by this clash, and
decided to change their name. The new name they came up was "Storing
Stuff Locally", or SSL for short.

    -- Nadav Har’El
    -- Post to Linux-IL ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg31801.html )
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NOTE: the question of existence of the IGLU Cabal is not on-topic any more, as
it was already discussed from all possible angles in Signature lines of a few
regular Hackers-IL participants. This is besides the fact that the IGLU Cabal
Does Not Exist, and Hamakor officially denies any relationship with the IGLU
Cabal.

    -- Omer Zak
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 3954 ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/3954 )
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[Hackers-IL discusses what is on-topic and off-topic there]

Hey Omer,

Pretty thorough list, but you forgot:

More typical subjects for Hackers-IL:

* Shlomi Fish

* Meta-discussions about Shlomi Fish

* Discussions about what is off-topic or not

* Meta-discussions about whether discussion about what is off-topic or not, is
off-topic or not

* List of typical subjects for Hackers-IL

* Literal ways to make any discussion infinitely recursive

    -- Tal Rotbart
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 3965 ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/3965 )
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You can easily install the binary distribution of Mozilla (from mozilla.org)
on a different prefix, possibly under your home directory. Please install it
and use it instead of Mozilla 1.1, at least when verifying if problems indeed
exist. I do not wish to tolerate any more reports of problems when using
Mozilla 1.1, because I can't tell if it's a bug that was fixed by then, or if
it's an actual issue with Mozilla.

On a slightly different note: my machine crashed the other day when using it
with kernel 2.6.0. Can anyone help?

Shlomi Fish on discussions@hamakor.org.il

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Post to discussions@hamakor.org.il ( http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/discussions/05-2005/1495.html )
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> > On a slightly different note: my machine crashed the other day when
> > using it with kernel 2.6.0. Can anyone help?
>
> I do not wish to tolerate any reports of problems when using  kernel
> 2.6.0, because I can't tell if it's a bug that was fixed by then, or
> if it's an actual issue with the kernel.

My Commodore 64 is suffering from slowness and insufficiency of memory;
and its display device is grievously short of pixels.  Can anyone help?

— Shlomi Fish, Muli Ben Yehuda and Omer Zak on discussions@hamakor.org.il.

    -- Omer Zak
    -- Post to the Hamakor Discussions Mailing List ( http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/discussions/05-2005/1497.html )
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> > My Commodore 64 is suffering from slowness and insufficiency of memory;
> > and its display device is grievously short of pixels.  Can anyone help?
>
> I can give you 64K of memory to make it a Commodore 128, it will be just
> like brand new. I'll throw in a disk drive so you can dump the
> cassettes, they are obsolete these days.

Leave your Commodore alone, this platform does not allow good scaling, even
doubling RAM amount... I think it's good time to upgrade to XT. You can even
install another 8088 instead of 8087 co-processor. Dual-CPU system would
allow greater throughput in multiuser environment. Yes, I know it demands
bigger initial investment, but the ROI is guaranteed in no more than 2
years.

— Omer Zak, Baruch Even and Alexey Maslennikov on discussions@hamakor.org.il

    -- Alexey Maslennikov
    -- Post to the Hamakor Discussions Mailing List ( http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/discussions/05-2005/1500.html )
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Dear Mz. Agmon,

What a horrid and nasty post you made. You absolutely lack ANY sense of
humour, human and human feelings as well as even an inkling of the rediculous.

Can you not get it in your head that Shlomi, is promoting the cause of
free-range chickens, defending their poor brethren rights, protesting their
distreatment with the heANDS OF NASTI AND HORRIBLE PEOPL WHO RAIZE CHIKINS IN
REAL SMALL CAGES WHERE MY FATHER WHO WAS THE MINISTER OF OIL PRODUCTION IN OUR
GLORIOUS CUNTRY WAS MURDERED BY THE DEPRAVED MERCERNAIES IMPORETED FROM IZREAL
BY THE FASCUITIC PRES. SESESCLUCK. HOW EVER MY FATHER HAS SEKVESTRED
$16,750,962.23 (SIXTEEN MILLION, SEVEN HUNDRT, NEIN HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO US
DOLARS AND TWENTY-THREE CENTS) IN AN UNNUMBERED ACCOUNT IN THE BANK OF OUR
CUNTRY.

I LIKE TO SHARE THA STASH WITH YOU IF YOU ONLY SEND ME A BIG BOX MADE OF EGG
CONTAINERS AND A SMALL TICKET TO BORA-BORA, BUISNES CLASS, PLEZ.

    -- Marc A. Volovic
    -- Post to the Linux-IL Mailing List ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il%40cs.huji.ac.il/msg42358.html )
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Hello, mein kinder.

While both Gilad and yours truly are indubitably and inalienably right, it is
often that clients in their infinite (the hands - they have a life of their
own and will not type "wisdom") perversity will ask for such wonderful
contraptions as RTAI kernel running in Red Hat 7.2 distribution with Mozilla
1.5 backported into it, the whole thing shouldered a-la the Tokyo Underground
at 7am into a 16MB NAND flash running with a proprietary driver (Gilad - we
know the culprits, do we not?)…

What should the indie, the consultant, the Gitche Manitou of the right
solution, do in such a case? Shove the right thing down the client's gullet (I
did that, it is very trying to shove a 48-node cluster down ANYONE's gullet
and, truth be told, not very hygienic)? Let the client blithfully trundle
towards his/her/its doom? Lie outright, say you do this, do the other? What?

Jonathan? Gilad? Gil? Shahar? Oron? Danny? Lior?

    -- Marc A. Volovic
    -- Post to Linux-IL ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il%40cs.huji.ac.il/msg44324.html )
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> I am looking for a Python trainer so we can start offering
> Python training to our customers.

Must… Resist… Oh what the heck.

(read with a heavy southern India accent)

Hello, my name is Ashish Khare, I've been a python trainer for fourteen years
under the great Ranjan of Pushkar, I would love to train any python that you
have, I also do cobra and rattle snakes. I am highly experienced and my
pythons have only bitten 3 people so far, one of them tried to actually grab
it by the teeth, imagine that. No fatalities so far. I have my own basket and
flute and willing to relocate.

Please call Ashish +91 (98) 1137-7803 for more details.

    -- Arik Baratz
    -- Post to Python-IL ( http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.israel/427 )
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Let the next version be good and full of eye-candy.
Let the FUD spreaders begone and vanish.
Let us be CAR and not CDR.
Let our features outweigh our bugs.
Let our patches be approved and committed.
Let our code spread in torrents.

Hacky New Year :-)

    -- Beni Cherniavsky
    -- Blessing for the New Hebrew Year ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/4725 )
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Since you are running a proprietary closed source system like WebLogic and
Solaris, I suggest you call their customer support.

Sun and WebLogic both told me that their customer support is their key
differentiator and competitive advantage over Open Source in the telecom
service provider market in order to ensure high availability of mission
critical systems.

God - I love the way those buzz-words just roll off my keyboard…

Best regards and good luck - this is a Linux/FOSS forum…sorry if you think I'm
a snob but I had a similar problem with the Sun Java application server a few
years ago and it took Sun 3 months to admit they didn't know the answer…

    -- Danny L
    -- Post to Linux-IL ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il%40cs.huji.ac.il/msg45715.html )
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I installed Linux (first Red Hat, then Mandrake) for my mom a few years ago.
The reason: her TV card refused to work properly in Windows no matter what we
tried. So she was extremely happy with Linux and hardly bugged me at all. And
believe me, she's rather clueless on the computer (she does stuff like opening
a doc file in word and choosing "save as.." in order to rename a file :).

Anyway, she was using linux happily, w/ a dual boot to Windows which she
hardly used, and then my brother convinced her to let him install Windows
instead.

Now, she keeps calling everyone every week or two with problems in her Windows
and she really misses her Linux… (she misses the uptime, the multiple
desktops, the fact that things didn't suddenly break and stop working for no
reason, her games - Aisleriot, PySol, LBreakOut 2, and other things I can't
think of right now.)

Oh, and about the command line, back then when she tried to shut down her
linux, sometimes some process needed manual killing, so I gave her the set of
commands she needed to type in the command line and she had no problem doing
that. In fact, she preferred doing that than, say, dragging some file in
Windows, because for her it's easier to give the computer some commands she
doesn't really understand than to start trying to figure out "intuitive" GUI…

    -- Netta El-Al
    -- Linux for One's Mother ( http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/05-2005/15319.html )
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Quoting Nir Simionovich, from the post of Mon, 02 Apr:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm trying to arrange an Asterisk weekend of code, with the purpose of

I see this as a direct attack on datiyim, people with children, people who
work during the week and want to rest on the weekend but don't have children,
people who like to go diving on weekends in Eilat, soldiers on weekend duty
(without children), people who don't know Hebrew, and worst of all: the vast
majority of people who don't want Hebrew in the Asterisk tools and DO have
children but are not datiyim!

When will the bigotry end?

    -- Ira Abramov
    -- Post to Linux-IL ( http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.region.israel/29847 )
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Well, no. Russians do not use everything for drinks. It has been empirically
proved that some substances - e.g. slag - cannot be used to make drinks.

Worse, some substances - e.g. slag - cannot be even used for the after-drink
zakuska.

Yet even worse than that, some substances - e.g. slag - are not even useful
for bottling drinks.

The silver lining on the rain cloud, however, is that there are precious few
such substances. Namely, one - slag.

Slainte!

    -- Marc A. Volovic
    -- Linux-IL Post ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il%40cs.huji.ac.il/msg39712.html )
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> My personal advice and preferences:
> Don't bother with advice about understanding 50-line code blocks.
> Advise how to make 10,000,000 line code base easier to understand.

Your advice is similar to going to a guy explaining home-improvement on TV and
showing how to build a shelf (or whatever) well, and telling him: "don't
bother with advice about building a shelf - advise how to build a 150 story
sky-scraper!". True, if a someone is about to build a sky-scraper, they should
not bother with the details on how to make a shelf (they'll hire someone to do
that), but most people will never need to build a sky-scraper in their lives,
while building shelves is a useful skill.

Similarly, most hobbyist (or even most professional) programmers will benefit
more from advice on writing 10,000 line programs than from advice on how to
write 10,000,000 lines.

    -- Nadav Har’El
    -- Hackers-IL Message No 1,222 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1222 )
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I have much more books than I can put on my night-stand. Books that are on my
night-stand are quickly accessible (when I'm in bed, that is), and books on
the shelf are not (I hate getting up from the cozy, warm, bed). So, when I
suddenly feel like reading a book that is not on the night- stand, I have no
choice but to go to sleep. In the morning, I wake up and always find the book
I wanted next to the bed! As it turns out, when I was asleep, another process,
known as "sleepwalk" got me the book I wanted. Also, when my nightstand
already has too many books on it, The sleepwalk process moves one of the books
- the one I'm least likely to want to read next - back to the shelf.

Last month, four Europeans with weird names decided to mess around with my
book-reading system. One called Alan decided that in some cases I should move
*all* my books to the shelf, go to bed without any books the same night, and
instead fill the nightstand with crap. And if somehow all my shelves are full
I should just burn one at random (if it burns the whole shelf, or the wrong
shelf, who cares).
Another one, called Andrea, decided that I should redesign my whole
sleepwalking routine according to his master-plan. However, this made my
sleepwalking become so strange, that people were hesitant to call me "stable"
any more. Alan thought my new sleepwalking was a sure sign of be not being
stable.
But then a third European, Linus, finally made a judgment-call, and decided
that I was stable, even with Andrea's new sleepwalking routine. He then told
yet another European, Marcello, that from now he's responsible for keeping me
stable. I thought it was my shrink's responsibility, but Marcello said no,
that now that he finally has some responsibility he's not going to just give
it up.

    -- Nadav Har’El
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1,408 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1408 )
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2. Journaling filesystems:

Imagine writing stuff on a lot of different notes and pieces of papers, etc.,
and then suddenly getting hit in the head and forgetting everything (call this
rebooting). You suddenly don't know which was the note you were in the middle
of writing, and you may end up finding a note saying "kill <name>" not knowing
you really meant to write "kill <name>'s jobs on the department's workstation,
because they are hogging all resources" before you got hit on the head. That's
why you should have a journal. Write everything that you do in there, one
entry after another, and only when you complete a whole note, cut it out of
the journal and keep it.

Also, when you go to the bathroom, don't forget to write down in the journal
about whether you're already done with #1, #2, or #3 (don't ask what #3 is…).
That way, if you suddenly get hit on the head (say, the nice fake plant over
the toilet falls on you) you won't get embarrassed, asking yourself questions
like "Oops, I don't remember if I did #2 or not, so should I reach for some
toilet paper or not?" If you had a journal, everything would have been much
simpler. Just look in there, and see what you've been up to.

    -- Nadav Har’El
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1,408 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1408 )
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3. Blue Screen of Death:

Some people, after a bit of strenuous activity, or simply a couple of days of
normal life, suddenly go blue and freeze up. Some people call it the blues,
others just call it death, but in OS lingo it's simply the Blue Screen of
Death. When that happens to a you, somebody passing by then needs to hit you
on the head (this is called a "reboot", after the footwear usually worn while
kicking someone's head). After a minute, you wake up, forgetting everything
you didn't write down before the event, but functioning much better than you
did before (at least for the first hour).

    -- Nadav Har’El
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1,408 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1408 )
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4. User Friendliness and Graphical User Interface:

Most people are not very user-friendly. Try talking to a person (especially of
the opposite sex) and trying to guess what you're supposed to do now, what the
other person wants from you, what would happen if you did this, and what would
happen if you did that, and how the heck to you get the other person to do
what you really want. No more of that! People should get a graphical user
interface. Why talk to the other person in that complex command line language
we call "Hebrew", when you can just look at the menu, see the options "Leave
me alone" and "Let's have sex" and just chose the one you want! Better yet,
why not have a toolbar, with nice little icons?

    -- Nadav Har’El
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1,408 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1408 )
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5. Authentication:

In the simple old days, to recognize someone you'd just look at his face and
try to remember who it is (if you didn't forget it in one of the Blue Screen
of Death episodes). But there's a much better way, which is more
mathematically-sound: RSA! Why try to remember a (many times ugly) face, when
instead you can remember a person's 1024 bit RSA key? (remembering 1024 ones
and zeros is a lot of fun! try it!) Then, when you meet the other person, and
you want to be sure it is *really* that guy, not some Hannibal Lektor who
pealed his face off and wore it, all you need to do is to make up a random
number (try not to choose 7, because that is too easily guessable!), do some
fun arithmetic with 1024 digit numbers, and then tell the other person the
result (hoping that the other guy doesn't get bored by you reading out aloud
the digits "one" and "zero" a thousand times) and ask him to try to guess the
random number from it. If he succeeds, he's not Hannibal Lektor - but he's
probably mad anyway.

    -- Nadav Har’El
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1,408 ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1408 )
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<<<

<<<

4. One of my friends works in a software development house who has an NT
server farm that needs to have close to 100% uptime and operationality.
Needless to say, they have top-of-the-class admins, and also make use of
scripting, the command line, command automation, etc. a lot. Most NT sys
admins don't know anything about the NT command line, much less about
scripting and automation.

>>>

Welcome to the real world with *real* MS sysadmins. Those who script,
automate, write code, know a thing or two about security and the underlying
technology. You know… professionals.

Please, please, do not tag those other "MCSE wannabes" with "Systems
Administrator" title. People that hardly know how to administer couple servers
and dozen workstations in my world are hardly called "operators" (and the same
stands in Linux world)

>>>

"operators". It's been a long time since I saw this word used anywhere. In
fact, I think the first and only time I saw it so far was in the story "The
Bastard Operator from Hell". (which is a highly recommended read).

But we need a common word for both sys-admins and "operators".

    -- Shlomi Fish and Guy Teverovsky
    -- Linux-IL: "Re: Cost-Efficiency of Unix and Windows Admins" ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg41179.html )
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There is no IGLU Cabal! They set out to write the "IGLU Cabal Paradigm", which
aimed to be the ultimate programming paradigm ever created or ever to be
created. Then they became frustrated that some programming newbies who fully
read "The IGLU Cabal Paradigm Bible" still produced very bad code.

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1968 - "Programming Paradigms Cont." ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1971 )
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Question: if a website crashes in the middle of the night and there are no
support people to roll in the crash cart, will anyone hear it play
C:\WINNT\Media\Windows 2003 Critical Stop.wav to call the nurse, or does it
wait till morning for the doctors' rounds?

    -- Ira Abramov
    -- Linux-IL Message: "Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux" ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg54167.html )
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<<<

Why Eclipse doesn't belong to the "right" tools ? My naïve understanding is
that Eclipse is Emacs of the 21-st century – it is open source, customizable
etc., similar to Emacs; in addition to being graphical.

>>>

Thank you! I was wondering why I hated Eclipse so much, and you have put your
finger on it. It's exactly like a 21-st century Emacs.

    -- Shachar Shemesh
    -- Re: [Haifux] [W2L] Call for lecturer + "Linux guru" ( http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg03885.html )
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There is no IGLU Cabal. The main organizer got 99% in the course about
starting and managing Linux Cabals, which he took in the Industrial
Engineering Faculty. However this grade did not reflect his organizational
abilities in the real world, and this was the understatement of the century.

    -- Omer Zak
    -- Hackers-IL Message No. 1464 - "Grades and the Real World" ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/1464 )
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<<<

I agree with your assessment about hand-editing, but I wanted to be sure
before I get in too deep. Send to me the code, I will try to get something
useful out of it. Unless it's Perl. Don't send me Perl!

>>>

I have some 16-bit Turbo C++ C source code to convert the Gregorian Calendar
to the Jewish calendar here:

http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/nostalgia/

It's MIT/X11, but will take some effort to adapt and I've found much more
elegant code in C in the past on the Net (which during my work for Cortext Web
Design, I translated into Perl 5, back in 1996ish. It was since lost.). I
think it was GPLed.

I also have versions of this code in COBOL.NET, Intercal, PDP-10 Assembly, J,
APL, Windows NT 4.0 Batch script and Autocad Lisp - I'm sure you can handle
all of them because none of them is Perl. ;-).

Perlfully and Painfully yours,

-- Shlomi Fish

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Linux-IL: "Re: Hebrew calendar software creators: can you notify this list when updating the calendar?" ( http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg58163.html )
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Shlomi Fish wrote:

<<<

First of all, I should note that "April 21" is an Americanism which makes
little sense and one should use "21 April" or "21st of April" in Commonwealth
English or Israeli English.

>>>

Erez Schatz replied:

<<<

"April" and the entire Gregorian calendar are not-Hebrew and make little
sense. One should use "Zain in I'yar".

>>>

To which Sawyer X replied:

<<<

Actually, if we're gonna nitpick… "Zain" and "I'yar" are hebrew words, but
"in" is not. It's an Englishification of the sentence. You should write "Zain
be'I'yar". :)

>>>

To which Shlomi Fish replied:

<<<

[Romanisation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization) is an imperialistic
practice and we must not succumb to it. We should write the date as "ז' באייר"
using the Hebrew alphabet exclusively. ;-)

>>>

To which Sawyer X replied:

<<<

You win best reply!

>>>

To which Shlomi Fish replied:

<<<

Yes, but I haven't finished yet. The contemporary names for the Hebrew months
are Pagan, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyar is:

«(Hebrew: אִייָר‎ or אִיָּר, Standard Iyyar Tiberian ʾIyyār ; from Akkadian
ayyaru, meaning "Rosette; blossom"…The name is Babylonian in origin.»

(And Tamuz is the name of a Phoenician god who is akin to the Egyptian
Ossiris.)

As a result, we should use the old Biblical numerical names of the months and
call "Iyar" "The Eighth month" if we start from Tishrey or "The Second Month"
if we start from Nissan and say that "Zayin in Iyar" is "Hayom hashvi3i
bahodesh hasheni" or "Hayom hashvi3i bahodesh hashmini.". ;-) (I'm using the
evil transliteration to Latin out of laziness but I'm consistently
inconsistent.)

And we should also revert to the old Phoenician / Kna'anite alphabet which was
originally used for writing Hebrew instead of the contemporary Hebrew alphabet
that is derived from the Aramaic transformation of it… (There are actually
characters for it in Unicode).

>>>

    -- Shlomi Fish
    -- Perl-Israel April 2010 Archive ( http://mail.perl.org.il/pipermail/perl/2010-April/thread.html )
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Shlomi Fish Wrote:

<<<

Well, I've also built some kernels on various occasions. The vanilla 2.6.37
kernel I built seemed snappier than the shipped-in Mandriva kernel, and
Freecell Solver executed there at 72.7685720920563s instead of
73.6936609745026s (the fractions are what was reported by my script and copy
pasted here - they are not very accurate.).

>>>

I hope that you agree with me that 99.9218485921% of the users wouldn't bother
themselves with recompilation (or any other manual step for that matter) to
make their games run 1.27127529900685765% faster ;-)

    -- Nadav Har’El
    -- Haifux Post - “No! No! Don't compile your kernel!” ( http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg04429.html )
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But what did not succeed was to make the customers *request* free
[as-in-speech] software when they (and not the creator of the operating system
or the device) choose a program themselves. For instance, only a small part of
the Android applications today are free software, and the customers are
“content” with a gratis and non-free software program.

I think the reason for this is prosaic — the belief that one can make money
easily from non-free software on Android. That if you will only write an
application and turn on the bit of “show ads”, then suddenly you will make
millions (or at least thousands…) from advertising. What happens eventually is
that there are 17 “headlight” (for example) applications in the app store, all
showing ads, and each one is used by 17 people and the developer earns a few
cents in the good case. This is instead of one headlight application, as free
software, which is better than all of them (see
http://code.google.com/p/search-light/ for instance). But everyone except the
users — Google and the authors of the software — have an interest to push the
non-free program to the user.

In the early 1990s there was a similar phenomenon in the PC world - the
“shareware”. Then it involved a program that you could get (without the source
code!) free-of-charge, but if you wanted to use it beyond a given time (for
example a week), or enable features that were limited in the gratis version,
you were supposed to pay for it. As far as I know, the whole system was a
complete failure — most of the developers did not earn substantial amounts of
money, and most of the users ignored the limited features, or cracked them.
Nevertheless, during almost two decades, thousands of programmers wasted their
time to write such non-free software. Most of the gratis software for the PC
back then was shareware - not open source. Today, nothing has remained from
all this work. However, a large part of the free software that has been
written back then, is still in use today.

If only there was a way to explain to the authors of the mobile applications
that no, most of them will not get rich from the applications, like most of
the authors of shareware did not, and it’s just better to write free software…

    -- Nadav Har’El
    -- Hamakor Discussions Mailing List Post ( http://hamakor.org.il/pipermail/discussions/2013-September/005026.html )
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On the other hand, let's not forget what I believe to be the reason for
FORTH's demise. FORTH is a very elegant language, with unorthodox ideas. It
was invented by Chuck Moore, who is having his own eccentric (and fresh) ideas
about how one should program.

The reason FORTH didn't take hold (at least in my own projects) was that it
lacked standard libraries for the things which I needed. It expected people to
reinvent the wheel (and optimize it to their project's needs) all the time. It
didn't take to heart Pareto's Law (80% of the computer time/programmer
time/memory requirements/bug expenses of software are in 20% of the code).
People should optimize and design their own implementations of data structures
only when and where they are critical to the software's performance. For
non-critical parts of the software, standard libraries are good enough and
should be used.

The morale of the story to hash functions in STL: STL should have provided a
standard hash implementation (like Perl does). But the standard implementation
should (like implementations of all other STL data structures) have provisions
for people to substitute their optimized algorithms when those algorithms are
really needed for a specific application

    -- Omer Zak
    -- Hackers-IL Post ( https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/hackers-il/conversations/messages/1833 )
